Friday, November 7, 2014

Selmer Mouthpiece comparison

Selmer S-80 Baritone vs. Selmer Bass Mouthpiece

When I purchased my bass it wasn't in playable shape. The octave mechanism was a bit tweaked and needed some work. After a some time with the horn my excitedly called to tell me the horn was playing and sounds like a champ. He played it for me with a Selmer S-80 baritone mouthpiece. I though it sounded okay but something was missing. My tech hadn't noticed the monster vintage bass mouthpiece hiding deftly in the corner of the case so he play tested with what he had on hand. When I played it with my Baritone S-80 I couldn't get the response to work and the intonation was all over the map. Following that i defaulted to the vintage piece in the case and notice that a few notes seemed wonky.

On a whim, I bought a Selmer Bass Mouthpiece for 50% off on ebay brand new in the box. On a casual examination it looked exactly like the the Baritone S-80 except for for the engraving "Saxo Basse"on the table. On closer inspection the difference was huge. After a couple hours with the bass piece I don't think I'll be using the vintage piece ever again.

First, the similarities:
  • Exterior dimensions are identical
  • Baritone ligatures fit this perfectly.
  • Tip opening charts are identical (so i'm told)
The differences:
  • The chamber is much larger on the bass
  • Baritone has a square window into the chamber
  • Bass has slightly scooped sidewalls vs straight baritone walls
  • Bass has a slightly wider tip width for bass reeds though baritone work as well
  • The bass has a larger back bore (shank opening)










Thursday, November 6, 2014

My Holton Bass Saxophone

Because bass saxophones are still somewhat unusual I managed to find a lot more images of my bass. I know who the last few owners were and when they had it. now that it is mine I am happy to add to this wonderful instruments chain of owners. 

Details:
Label: Holton
Manufacturer: Conn
Date of manufacture: 1923 +/- 3 years
Key: Bb
Range: Bb - Eb
Finish: clear lacquer + black epoxy paint
Unusual features: non standard neck, no bis key, no automatic G#

Known past owners: M. Stoecker (2008-?), N. Starke (2009 - 2014), Me (2014 - ?)  

Some images of this horn are from http://www.bassic-sax.info. Helen gathered these when the horn was for sale on ebay in 2008.

















Thursday, October 30, 2014

So you want to play bass saxophone?

I'll admit that I had no idea what I was walking into when I decoded I'd by a bass sax and learn to be proficient. Seriously, how hard could it be? The truth is that the bass is a saxophone but it's also some very different. It is a resistance trainer, lung expander, wallet reducer, finger stretcher, backing breaking hulk of a horn and it's quite fun to play.

Firstly I am referring specifically to my bass a 1923 Conn stencil keyed to High Eb. The old Conn and Buescher basses are the long wrap type. This means the upper portion of the horn doesn't curl back on itself as much as baritone does making the main body tube considerably longer than the french wrap preferred by Selmer. French wrapped basses are more compact and more baritone like in their tone and timbre. Is any one type of bass better than another? Some say the long or American wrap has a bigger more booming voice whereas the French wrap blends into sections better and is easier to transport. I can't speak the blend as I feel any horn can be made to blend but in terms of transportation I would have to agree.
Gard baritone gig bag (left) next to bass saxophone (right) rolling case

From the start the first thing you and everyone will notice is that the horn is big. It's not just big it's heavy. Weight is around 20lbs without the case and nearly 40lbs with the case. My low-A Yamaha baritone clocks in at 14lbs so it's a big leap in weight. This larger size and weight stresses everything related to the horn: cases, neck straps, thumb hooks, horn stands, and lastly your body. Let's take a look at these elevents marked for bass destruction.

First up is the case. Considering the age of my horn [1923] it's no wonder it is not in it's not in it's original case. That case likely fell apart long ago under the weight of the horn, the elements and poor maintenance. Thankfully my horn came to me nestled snugly in the wheeled case seen in this post.This is the same case that Steve Goodson used to sells on his site. It's made by a company in China, I believe JinYin. It's pretty expensive, $1200, for a case but it does do a great job at shrinking the bass to size to fit in my Min Cooper. Yes, I can fit a bass in my Cooper. I could easily fit the remainder of the sax family in as well as long as I stack them. With that in mind be prepared to buy a new case if you are still using the old coffin style or vintage shaped case.

Once out of the case and together you will need a method of holding the horn to you. I initially tried using the Neotech harnesses I use on baritone. those didn't work as they didn't have enough height adjustment to bring the mouthpiece to my mouth. On my bass the mouthpiece location ends up being about 6 inches lower than the baritone. The playing position places the mouthpiece at about half way down the horn verses at the top of the horn for baritone. This means any sax harness would need to have a great deal of vertical adjustment. Most harness don't have this. have to return to using the tried and true neck strap. Neck straps have issues all their own separate to the pains in the neck they cause. A cheaper strap will usually have a nylon hook instead of a plastic coated metal hook. While this is great for protecting the finish it just isn't strong enough to hold the bass. There is nothing worse than to have a horn go crashing to the ground because of a bad or broken nylon clasp.

In examining my horn I saw that sometime in the past 93 years the thumb hook had been repaired, perhaps more than once based on slightly different solder colors. I suspect that it took a hit to the thumb rest perhaps during a fall. The weight of this horn amplifies small hits. It's the classic equation of force = mass * acceleration. A heavy sax dropping, sliding, or falling onto a surface is going to cause damage to something. That something is going to be the sax or the surface it hit.

As you might expect once you find a way to hang the horn from your person you will find that your body will develop some ache and pains. Good core support if vital if you want to play it suspended from your body. If you don't then a good stand becomes the second most important purchase after your case. There are playing stands with wheels that allow you to position the horn for tooting while mounter firmly in the stand. There are also stands  which are similar to baritone stands but have a much larger bell "U" to accommodate the larger bell of the bass. Saxrax has become the de facto bass stand for many players on the internet.

Lastly, being a bass sax player requires a change in mindset. Depending on the type of music you play you may not have the lead line. If you are the bass of the group then you have to play like the bass of the group. Low notes alone are only part of the bass equation. You have to become a rhythm instrument as well as a wind one. This requires rhythmic playing  and where a drummer is involved a connection to them. The bass and drums feed and compliment each other.  The bass provides the foundation of the chords while also complimenting the drum rhythms. This takes time and practice. There are several great bass sax players on Youtube who exemplify this rhythmic and chordal duality. Bert Brandsma of the Dixieland Crackerjacks is the first that comes to mind. The second is Joe Rushton who played with Red Nichols and the Five pennies.


Thursday, October 16, 2014

Mouthpiece Clearance | Sale

I've decided I'd part with a few pieces as I can't fit anymore on my mouthpiece stand. If you're interested email me for more info. I figured my readers should get first crack.

Vintage no-name Geo Bundy/ Woodwind Company mouthpiece

 


Lebayle Ebony Wood Jazz  #8 | Baritone




Rico Royal Graftonite B5 | Baritone


Bari woodwind 9* | Tenor


Selmer S-80 C* | Soprano



Meyer G-Series | Alto


Selmer S-80 F | Baritone



Woodwind Company | Baritone


RPC High baffle .110B | Baritone





Monday, October 6, 2014

Nuclear Whales Saxophone Orchestra

Inspired by a post on another fantastic sax blog I decided to go on the hunt for some Nuclear Whales Saxophone Orchestra information. I knew they were on a permanent hiatus but I wanted to know what has happened since. I have been a fan of theirs for the last 25+ years but hadn't kept up with the group. I was vaguely remember when group member Ann Stamm Merrell passed away from breast cancer back in 1999 but not much more about the group since then. On a hunch I decided to go internet dumpster diving.

A basic trip to their old website netted me information about the  Fukushima nuclear disaster and unrelated information. Clearly the domain now belonged to another group. At some point the NWSO decided to abandon the website and as it seems public performances. Instead of wallowing in the nostalgia of bygone days I decided to dive deep and follow the bread crumbs.

Listing from Pinedalewyoming.com archive
After scanning the Archive.org site and skimming through page after page of the classic NuclearWhales.com website I found some old gig listings. The last gig documented on the site was for a March 13, 2004 gig in Pinedale Wyoming. I could not find a review of the performance sadly. If this was their last gig then a benefit gig is a great way to end a long run.

After hitting a dead end I decided to follow the musicians:
  • Kristen Strom - She's still gigging with her group (The Kristen Strom Quintet), recording, and teaching.
  • Dale Mills - He runs his teaching studio and performs with a group called "Hot Club Pacific" 
  • Don Stevens - Founder of NWSO (can't find any links to him)
  • Kelley Hart Jenkins - ???
  • Kevin J. Stewart - Currently with the San Francisco Saxophone Quartet and teaching at Dominican University in San Rafael.
  • Art Springs - Currently working as a Home Inspector
  • Ann Stamm Merrell -*Deceased* Until her death was a well regarded quilt artists


In the end I hope a reunion album could be done and fill the contra-bass saxophone hole that fills my heart. *If late 90's styled websites is too cringe-worthy  you may not want to follow this link.*


Link to Archive.org

If you have any more information on the members of the group please let me know. I'd like to keep this page updated.

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